A Lobby Requirement For Slave Girls

The Gorean Compass is a class given every Thursday by Master Gorm Runo.  Classes are held at the Gorean Campus and are given at noon and 6pm SLT.  All are encouraged to come and join in the amazing discussions. This class was held on November 15, 2018


Tal and Greetings,

We are going to talk a bit more about slavery today, and suggest another “lobby” requirement for a slave girl. When we say lobby requirement, we are talking about those essential beliefs that qualify a person to claim they are Gorean and are separate from the thousands of variations and various interpretations that are possible.

I got my idea for this talk, oddly enough, from a day time television show that was on in the back ground while I was doing some cooking the other day. It was some sort of panel show, and a young woman was telling her story to the host. It appears that she was in a relationship with a controlling man. She finally got to the heart of the matter, and with a tear rolling down her cheek, and shame flushing her face for betraying her gender, she managed to blurt out this most horrible and damning of all statements.

“He makes me do things sometimes, that I don’t want to do.

The cameras moved to the audience that was reacting with shock and dismay. A man was making a woman doing something she didn’t want to do? The Horror! The audience was booing and shaking their fists at this outrage, and the host reached out, put a comforting hand on her shoulder, and shook his head sadly.

When I had stopped laughing, I went to the book shelf to find book 23, Renegades of Gor. I remembered a quote from that book that I had used before in a discussion about discipline, and was rather lucky to find it quickly. It is a rather long quote, but I will give it in its entirety today.

“Surely you fear the whip,” I said, “and the hazards of the collar?”
“The whip is good for us,” she said, “Perhaps it is hard for you to understand that, as you are not a woman. It makes our womanhood a hundred times more meaningful. The essential point here is not being whipped, of course, which hurts, but being subject to the whip and being truly subject to it. You see the distinction, I am sure. We know that men are by nature sovereign over us. That comprehension requires no great insight. Accordingly, men must the either fulfill their nature or deny it, and in denying their nature, deny us ours, for ours is a complement to theirs. Accordingly we despise men who surrender their natural sovereignty. Surely we would not be so stupid, would not be such weaklings and fools to do that, if we were men. It would be too valuable and glorious a thing to give up. Its surrender would be a tragedy. But, we are not men! We are women, and want,truly, with everything in our heart and bellies, to be woman, and we can not be women truly if men are not truly men! Accordingly, I would not want a man who could not whip me. I would not have the least respect for a man who was too weak to use it on me. Lay down your whip, and we will attack you, and undermine you, and use your own laws, institutions and rhetorics to destroy you, inch by inch. Lift it, and we will lick your feet in gratitude. Own us, dominate us! Enslave us , properly, so that we may love as women are meant to love, wholly and irreservedly, totally, without a thought for ourselves! She looked at me with tears in her eyes. “Is it wrong to want to be ourselves?”
Renegades of Gor page 161

Being subject tp the whip? This whole topic touches on complex issues. When I was speaking out about the evils of a BTB approach to Gor, I pointed out that the ability to physically abuse a female, something very unpopular in current Western society, actually tended to make a Gorean Master in the Gorean novels, living on the fictional planet, much weaker than the Second Life Gorean Master living in a real world. This is because of the legal support in fictional Gorean society for the use of force, even deadly force, to enforce discipline.

We can’t do that here, and certainly not in an online M/s relationship such as we find in Second Life. I know that girls have told me many times that having their pixelated avatars whipped by an angry Master in role play on Second Life actually hurts because of their emotional reaction. They tell me that the emotional pain is worse than the physical. They said that “sticks and stones merely break your bones, but it is the words that really hurt you.”

I understand the power of emotion, but I was a soldier, too, and understand the power of violence also. When you take away the power of force, as the Goreans in the books had, and have to rely on something else, I think you have to be a better man, a stronger man, and a more honorable and decent man, to coax submission from a slave. Any asshole can pick up a whip and beat a girl into a fake expression of submission, but, it takes a much stronger man to use only his words, and his own example and behavior to draw an honest submission out of her. I have suggested that this is the essential message John Norman was giving us when I say “Bad Gor/Good Gor”, is the way to understand the novels and the philosophy.

We are not supposed to run out and find a whip and become bullies to become better men. That is obviously a warped message. So, what might be the symbolic meaning of the whip?

I think it goes back to the basic problem in the one on one male female relationship dynamic. It can not be a democracy, and it can not operate , despite what feminist writer’s might claim in Cosmopolitan Magazine, on the basis of compromise. Neither of those solve the basic problem of what to do when an impasse is reached. If compromise is the method, eventually, there will be an issue where it does not work. If they vote on everything, sooner or later, there will be a 1-1 tie vote.

So, the whip could be the symbolic tie breaker. And we need a tie breaker. That is the essential flaw of our current method. Since there is no tie breaker in the relationship, the only recourse to an impasse is a Divorce lawyer, or the termination of the relationship. Nature and evolution could not have produced this result. It is not how we were programmed to be. We had to develop a relationship dynamic that kept couples together long enough to raise the human child, that stayed a child longer than almost any other species. Besides that, I am sure cavemen would have quickly “killed all the lawyers.”
The tie breaker of natural order was male dominance and female submission. You could vote, as long as the man held a tie breaking vote, and you could compromise until you couldn’t, and then the Man decided. This was the natural order, and it got us out of the caves and into space. Is it a good idea to give it up now? If a human female is hard wired that way, the quote makes perfect sense.
The kicker here is that for this system to work properly, there had to be more to it. The man could not handle this responsibility for decision making if he did not have other things to guide him. Nor would he be a “true man” simply because he had a penis hanging between his legs. This is why the concepts of Honor and even love, and the obligation to protect the weak, and brotherhood, and family all became important parts of the “true man” definition.

If he was going to be responsible for the hard decisions, and if he was going to be the one wielding the whip, he needed the help of a Gorean compass of ideas to guide him away from the easy way, and the selfish way, and the evil way, and the cruel way, to find the right way.

So, what does this have to do with slave girl lobby requirements? I think it is absolutely essential that the slave girl accepts the idea of discipline. She has to understand that she will not always get her way, and that from time to time, she will have to do something that she does not want to do. If she expects the audience to hiss at her Masters and the host to pat her shoulder when she has to yield to the “whip”, she most likely is not going to find her time in Gor profitable, and she might not even be happy in any of the upper rooms either.
I think that if a girl does not react to a Man who is honorable, uncompromising, honest and open about his own nature, and also willing to discipline her when she has erred, she should be searching the many areas of Second Life where the other kinds of men are in abundance.

Sadly, a lot of those men find their way to Second Life. Pretending to be a Master is always an easy way to score, especially given the idea of “slave girls.’ Second Life Gor can be an emotional jungle for a poor, but serious, girl who is expecting to find something different, and only finds more of the same. They are conditioned by their society to believe as Jason Marshal tells the slave in Fighting Slave of Gor, that true men are men that defer to women. So, when they come to Second Life Gor and find men either pretending to be hard ass bullies or soft hearted, attentive, men overlooking their faults and mistakes and patting them on their “baby girl” heads, they are easily fooled into thinking either of those , too hard, too soft extremes is what they were seeking.
So, this whole “only when a man is truly a man, can a woman be truly a woman” thing is way more complex and difficult to achieve than it might appear.
If you are willing to follow the codes and adhere to the values that make you a true man, then you might be said to be “holding the whip.”
If you are a female, whose heart jumps when you see a sign of true manhood, regardless of from whom, and feel that you would gladly serve and obey him, then you might be said to be “yielding to the whip.”
And again, you would be welcome in my lobby anytime.

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