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ahh, ok, then I will begin. It is not a really long lesson, but I do have some quotes, and will need to type them out. But, still , we should be able to get through this fairly quickly.
The 17th book of the series, Savages of Gor, contains a rather long and extended event that takes up over 50 pages of the novel. Here is the story. A slave trader named Grunt has purchased a coffle of slave girls in one of the towns along the border of the Barrens. He is planning on selling them to the Red Savages.
As he is traveling out into the Barrens, and Tarl Cabot is with him, he discovers that one of the girls is a virgin. White silk girl as the Goreans would call her. and he is upset, because the Red Savage have no use for, or interest in, virgin slave girls.
So, he asks, Tarl, as a favor to “deflower” or “open” the girl and Tarl takes her to his furs and does so.
So why does it take over 50 pages?
It isn’t because Tarl is a para rp’er, but rather because he feels the need to explain the entire philosophy of slavery, submission, dominance, and natural order to her while he is breaking her in for the first time.
So, there is a lot of talking, and not a lot of action. but, it gives us some real insights into the attitude of a Gorean man toward a slave girl.
Remember, I said, book 17. Tarl is a Gorean man now. He had been in Gor almost as long as I have, and he was thinking much more Gorean now. So, the 50 pages are a good source of information,and of quotes.
—– Trigger warning ——-
I have been giving trigger warnings lately, not because I think they are really needed, but more to mock them. So, here is a trigger warning on this part of the novels. It will not please feminists at all. It is not very LGBT etc. friendly either but, the part of it I wanted to talk about in this class comes about half way through the night.
The girls has been used. she has yielded, too. Responded beyond her own expectations. and Tarl is talking about her training.
—– QUOTES ——
So, we will go to the quotes now. Ok, I found it. Page 198
“On the other hand, I think it is undeniable that a girl can learn much form another girl one who has survived, and is surviving, as a slave.
“Surviving,” she asked?
“Yes, ” I said, “for the slave girls who are not pleasing are commonly killed.”
She put the side of her head fearfully down on my foot.
“Be pleasing, ” I told her.
“Yes, Master, ” she said.
“But most girls,” I said, “not only survive as slaves, but thrive as slaves.”
Now, on the next page, page 199, he adds this.
“Even the girl who does not have a female trainer, ” I said, “will often seek out more experienced girls, to beg them for their intimate counsels, and their secrets of love and beauty. Sometimes, she purchases these by such tiny gifts, of food and such, as may be within her province or by performing portions of the other’s labors, and so on.
Indeed, much of the chitchat of slave girls, in their gatherings, has to do, in one way or another, with the plesing of masters”
“It is in our best interest to fulfill our duties well,” she said.
Earlier, Tarl said to her this wonderful quote.
“An ignorant Free Woman is a commonplace. An ignorant slave girl is an absurdity.”
Free women often do foolish and ignorant things. They don’t know things they should know. And there is not much that can be done. ahhh, but a slave girl there is no excuse. she is under discipline. she can be taught and given no choice but to learn.
I think Masters often care little where and how girls acquire knowledge and skills. Many Masters that take the time and effort to teach themselves to their slave but, they also expect girls to have basic knowledge, and basic skills.
Here is an analogy. Masters are like college Professors. They are waiting to teach advanced subjects, and can not be bothered to teach basic math or take time teaching colors and numbers.
They expect female slaves to come to them with certain basic skills , and if a girl is a barbarian, or ,,shudders, a Free woman now enslaved. she needs to learn, and quickly what is 1 + 1 , and how many legs has a sleen, before she finds herself at the feet of a demanding Gorean Master.
And who are the teachers of these elementary skills?
I know that a kennel full of slave girls is like an alley full of larls , and jealousy and rivalry runs rampant among girls, fighting for the attentions of Masters. There is another side to it. There is an idea of a common goal. A over riding imperative for a slave girl, for all slaves.
Please the Masters! Serve the House!
There is a common sense call to all slaves to work together to make sure that the Masters are pleased. just as this silly new girl in the book realized in the quote I gave.
——- EXAMPLE ——-
Let me tell you of a recent experience that will illustrate my point. Speaking of standards and expectations of a HOR slave or kennel.
A girl was told to attend a discussion, or class, and her response to the Master was. “I don’t have a landmark to that place. How do you expect me to attend?”
The Master was not pleased. There were at least 100 ways she could have found out and been there smiling and ready to serve when Master arrived and a few of the main ones were to ask.
Ask, the slaves who already know the answers, and have the landmarks. learn from each other, and sharpen each others skills. There are experienced slaves that have survived slavery, and are thriving in it. “looks at roni, and his elite slaves”
Learn how to be pleasing, and remember that the standards are high, and the demands and expectations are even higher.
An ignorant slave, say the gorean novels, is an absurdity.
[19:49] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): Both my Mistresses have subs or pets not slaves
[19:49] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327) beams a smile then hearing caly eyes widen
—— QUESTIONS —–
[19:49] Gorm Runo: we have a few minutes, if you have questions.
[19:50] Gorm Runo: caly, we type @ which is raising your hand and asking permission to speak.
[19:50] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside): looks up from her writing and blinks
[19:50] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): @
[19:50] Gorm Runo: much better, go ahead, caly
[19:51] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): My Mistresses don’t think I should how to be a Gorean slave. But I think it would help me better study BSDM as a whole
[19:51] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): Is that strange
[19:52] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): I wanted some knowledge from the Gorean community
[19:52] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): In order to be a better pet for my beloved Mistress
[19:52] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): Sorry rambling
[19:53] Gorm Runo: and we always remember, in class, to say “done” when you are finished, so the next person can speak.
[19:54] ღ Ḉąℓƴ Ӄųгḯʂąӄℯ ღ (Morrighan7): Yes sorry my Master Gorm. This pet is done
[19:55] Gorm Runo: ok, anyone else have anything to add?
[19:55] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327): @
[19:56] Gorm Runo: yes, honey
[19:56] Gorm Runo: pot
[19:56] Gorm Runo: laughs
[19:56] Trinity Raven (xXTrinityBladeXx): chuckles
[19:57] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327): smiles, “Amazing class Master i believe that it surely helps the kennels to not be a den of jealousy and such if the girls are truly open with one another and help one another out to be the most pleasing slaves they can be to bring honor to the House and you. Loved the quotes from savages. Thank you so much.”
[19:58] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327): done
[19:58] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327): laughs blushing
[19:58] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327): see i forget too.
[19:59] MAXI WOLF (wolfthatdances): ‘interesting views and quotes, thank you Gorm’
[20:00] Gorm Runo: As you know, girl, I see the issue as the same as humans face in other endeavors from Sports teams, and work crews, to military units or even families. Over coming normal human/animal reactions and likes and dislikes, and focusing on the team goal ,,
[20:00] Gorm Runo: in this case, pleasing me, Maxi, and the Administrator.
[20:00] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327) smiles nodding and listening
[20:00] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327) “Yes, Master.”
[20:01] Gorm Runo: no matter how much you might dislike anyone, it is not worth having her piss off any of us, because then no one might get extra berries on their gruel.
[20:01] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327) ”
[20:01] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327) Likes berries on her gruel… nods nods
[20:01] Gorm Runo: Thank you , Maxi
[20:01] GeneChico: Yes Gorm, sometimes girls focus too much on each other with jealously instead of keeping their focus on the their Master who is the one that should matter most of all!
[20:01] Gorm Runo: ok,,it is past 8
[20:02] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside): @
[20:03] Gorm Runo: nods to the Administrator. I suspected that we would be together on the idea that it is not acceptable either in HOR, or Tosar village. Our goals are too important to not be above anything petty or trivial like slave jealousy.
[20:03] Gorm Runo: yes, tiggy, last comment,then we are ending. “smiles”
[20:03] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside) smiled brightly “i just wanted to say Master if i may to all the girls here… Like the quotes suggest girls come to the more experienced for help… so please feel free to approach this slut whenever you need help! I dont bite… hard… and im extra nice if you bribe me with sweets and shiny stuff… just saying…” giggles.. done Master
[20:03] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327): giggles smiling
[20:04] GeneChico: laughs, good class, thank you Gorm for allowing the Free to attend as well
[20:04] Trinity Raven (xXTrinityBladeXx): giggles quietly
[20:04] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327) “bring tiggy cake!” giggles
[20:04] Gorm Runo: helping girls and getting their sweets accounts for tiggy’s ample hips and ass, I think
[20:04] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside): nods lots and lots…
[20:04] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside): giggles
[20:04] Honey Pot (rhiannon0327) busts out laughing giggling and smiling
[20:04] Narin (narelle Hennah) need hips ass and titties
[20:05] Gorm Runo: You are most welcome, Administrator. If you get an arrangement with that other sim, the girls would always be welcome for this class. sounds like they could use some classes.
[20:05] GeneChico: Thank you I will work on it, smiles