Master Gorm Runo’s classes on Slave Protocol. Presented at Tosar Village on Mondays at 6pm SLT. Excellent classes presenting what Master’s expect of slaves and their behavior.
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[19:04] Gorm Runo: we are going to begin tonight with a musical selection
[19:04] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): Master is singing!
[19:05] Gorm Runo: I think many of your will recognize it at once.
[19:05] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside): squeals and bounces
[19:05] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) giggles peering up at him a quizzical expression on her face …
[19:05] Gorm Runo: And now ladies and gentlemen –
the Keeper of the keys,
the Countess of the clink,
the mistress of Murderers Row,
Matron Mama Morton!
[19:05] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): ahhhh.. yes!!
[19:05] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): recognition dawns
[19:05] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) “Oh goodness!” giggles as Chicago flashes through her head .. the Musical ..
[19:05] Gorm Runo: Ask any of the chickies in my pen
They’ll tell you I’m the biggest Mutha. . . .Hen
I love them all and all of them love me –
Because the system works;
the system called reciprocity!
[19:06] Gorm Runo: Got a little motto
Always sees me through –
When you’re good to Mama
Mama’s good to you!
There’s a lot of favors
I’m prepared to do –
You do one for Mama
She’ll do one for you!
[19:06] Gorm Runo: They say that life is tit for tat
And that’s the way I live –
So, I deserve a lot of tat
For what I’ve got to give!
Don’t you know that this
hand washes that one too –
When you’re good to Mama
Mama’s good to you!
[19:07] Gorm Runo: If you want my gravy
Pepper my raggoo –
Spice it up for Mama
She’ll get hot for you!
When they pass that basket
Folks conribute too –
You put in for Mama
She’ll put out for you!
[19:07] Gorm Runo: The folks a top the ladder
are the ones the world adores –
So boost me up the ladder kid
and I’ll boost you up yours!
Let’s all stroke together
Like the Princeton crew –
When you’re strokin’ Mama
Mama’s strokin’ you!
So what’s the one conclusion
I can bring this number to?
When you’re good to Mama
Mama’s good to you!!
[19:08] Gorm Runo: The song is talking about what has actually developed in most of the known universe in the matter of male/female relationships.
[19:08] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside) claps and giggles all excited. And was singing along while reading it
[19:09] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) hisses, “Get off me.”
[19:09] Gorm Runo: that word that I can not say correctly for some reason, the repricity thing
[19:10] Gorm Runo: has formed the basis for modern day, at least, male/female dynamics. It seems to start very early, in the playgrounds. A girl says. “I will love you, if you love me”
[19:10] Gorm Runo: It is a tit for a tat exchange, a contract , even if not written down, which has both parties constantly asking, “whats in it for me?”
[19:11] Gorm Runo: and then there is Gor
[19:11] Thaïs (LauraTarnsman) just shakes head, fingering her collar lightly.
[19:12] Gorm Runo: If I was to be asked to state a major paradigm difference in what makes a Gorean slave girl, it would be this.
[19:13] Gorm Runo: It is not a contract in the classical sense. That is why there is a collar around your necks, and why you kneel at our feet
[19:13] Gorm Runo: I promised to give some examples from some recent experiences to illustrate this idea.
[19:14] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) listens closely
[19:14] Gorm Runo: a “slave” and I use the term loosely, informed me that if her service was not appreciated, she was just not going to offer it.
[19:15] Gorm Runo: To be clear, no service had yet been given. The appreciation, the deal part of it, had to come first.
[19:15] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) brows shoot up jaw dropping slightly .. closes her mouth …
[19:16] – Ϯɪɢɢƴ – (Kel Blindside) eyes widen and looks horrified that a girl would say such a thing
[19:16] Gorm Runo: That is “anti=Kajira behavior.
[19:17] Gorm Runo: The normal repro, city, deal is not what Gorean slavery is based on.
[19:17] GeneChico shakes his head trying not to clench his teeth
[19:17] Gorm Runo: Make no mistake, the idea was that done correctly, the dynamic, which was much more tuned
[19:18] Gorm Runo: to natural order, was supposed to provide a benefit for both parties.
[19:18] Gorm Runo: Even the books, were always screaming about “the freedom of slavery” or “finally , free to be true to herself” etc. etc.
[19:19] Gorm Runo: and a girl ran away, and ended up in the alcoves of a paga tavern rather than return to Earth.
[19:20] Gorm Runo: she didn’t want to go back to the world of “the deal” The world of “I will love you, if you love me.”
[19:21] Gorm Runo: she wanted to stay in a world of totality, where she was truly alive.
[19:22] Gorm Runo: Gorean Masters are keyed into listening for that kind of deal making, and of the expectations, and even demands, that so often follow that kind of Earth girl thinking here in Gor.
[19:23] Gorm Runo: “whats in it for me?” is a question that every human would instinctively ask. The human animal and its self preservation instinct asks that question.
[19:24] Gorm Runo: but, the kajira asks it quietly, in her heart, and in her belly. She does not make it part of a “contract” for her submission. Her submission is unconditional.
[19:24] bee (beaDumbledore) beams looking up at her Owner and nods
[19:26] Gorm Runo: I suppose that is what makes Gor seem much harsher than other lifestyles that share much of our terminology, but it is what it is. Gorean slavery is a leap of faith. Total submission, with the hope that the Master , whose responsibilities under this arrangement are very harsh , too
[19:27] Gorm Runo: is honorable, and strong.
[19:28] Gorm Runo: I urge you all to watch your serves, your behavior, your conversations, while you are here in Second Life Gor this coming week. Look for that repro,,,city, stuff in your attitude and expectations, and vector yourselves outward in service.
[19:29] Gorm Runo: And then, evaluate, from what happens, and how it makes you feel to serve with that kind of heart,
[19:29] Gorm Runo: whats in it for you
———– QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ———–
[19:30] Gorm Runo: That is all I had for tonight, if you have comments, questions, lets use the @ method, and say done, when finished to keep order.
[19:30] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): @
[19:30] Gorm Runo: yes, tabi
[19:31] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): Master, do you really think it’s possible for a girl to serve with all her heart day after day and receive nothing in return? My experience has been that it’s not and that eventually resentment or anger or both will set in. I think that’s what’s happened to many slaves in SL Gor, they served Masters that gave them nothing in return and they became bitter and hardened because of it.
[19:31] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): done, Master
[19:31] rhiannon (rhiannon0327): @
[19:32] Thaïs (LauraTarnsman): @
[19:34] Gorm Runo: Actually, tabi, I think that maybe the evaluation process, when uncluttered, might avoid that situation. A girl should know quickly if her needs are not being met, and might be doing things to rectify the situation, by attracting a buyer even.
[19:35] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy) whispers… shopping for another Master….hmmmmm
[19:35] Gorm Runo: they shouldn’t become bitter and hardened, either. They should see it as a learning experience, and a part of the journey. It should make them wise and more confident.
[19:35] Gorm Runo: rhiannon, go ahead
[19:35] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) takes a deep breath, “Thank you, Master. i just wished to share my thoughts on all you said. Cause, it is hard, to be a slave and to constantly vector outwards. Like you said, it is a human instinct to question, “What’s in it for me?” However, as your slave, over the past few months actually, i have been halting myself when i have those thoughts. And, flipping them, to .. how can i please Master at this? Or .. by doing this? Or .. whatever. And, the reward has been so wonderful! i find that the more i give the more i receive and even if i don’t receive perhaps all that i might hope for, in the end i can be content knowing that you are happy.” done
[19:37] Gorm Runo: thank you, rhiannon. That is how it should work.
[19:37] Gorm Runo: thais, you had a comment, too
[19:37] Thaïs (LauraTarnsman): Master, I have thought about that question, “What’s in it for me”. So many times, service, charities, favors… they all have an ulterior motive. But what’s in it for a slave. I know this will sound smarmy, but to me service is like bathing in a warm spirit.. there is a freshness and a warmth to it, but not a sense you have earned anything except another day to experience that same warmth once again, and to feel you are learning a little better each day how to sense your Master’s wants. But, to Tabi’s point, perhaps a good Master can help keep that feeling energized. #
[19:39] Gorm Runo: Very true. The truth is that there has to be that repro thing in any relationship. The Gorean difference is that it is not “tit for tat, and you stroke me, I will stroke” you kind of trade off.
[19:40] Gorm Runo: It recognizes the differences, in roles, in dominance/submissive natures, in male and female perspective.
[19:40] Gorm Runo: It can’t be tit for tat, because the needs are so different. especially, the needs of a girl who craves bathing in the warmth of being pleasing and useful.
[19:41] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) smiles
[19:42] rhiannon (rhiannon0327): @
[19:42] Gorm Runo: yes, rhiannon
[19:42] Gorm Runo: go ahead.
[19:43] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) “i just wanted to tell thais i loved the way she put that. Bathe in the warmth of being pleasing.” smiles .. “done.”
[19:43] Thaïs (LauraTarnsman) smiles, her face reddening slightly
[19:45] Gorm Runo: ok, tabi, go ahead.
[19:45] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): and if the girl serves and is never recognized for her service, then she never bathes in the warmth of being pleasing. How does she know she’s pleasing if she’s never told. If what she does is just taken for granted and the Master moves on not recognizing what the girl did or giving her any feedback. You need some kind of reciprocation to feel that warmth of being pleasing. I don’t think there is a single girl in this room who can serve and not receive some kind of recognition in return. Even seeing the Master enjoying himself isn’t enough after awhile. The girl will want something for herself, and that is just natural. It’s human nater, even for a woman.
[19:45] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): done, Master
[19:45] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): nature, not nater, LOL
[19:48] bee (beaDumbledore): @
[19:48] Gorm Runo: there is a long distance between tabi’s “never recognized for her service” and the kind of Earth girl reciprocity that I am talking about tonight. In side that long distance, fits the world of fictional Gor, where the poor unhappy girls will just have to languish away in misery. And there is Second Life Gor where if you are such an idiot as to not recognize the human needs of your submitted slave girls, you will not have them for long.
[19:49] Gorm Runo: bee
[19:49] Gorm Runo: go ahead, we have time for one more comment.
[19:49] bee (beaDumbledore): To me submission is it’s own reward … being allowed to serve. It’s involves having a need to serve and submit … to be a slave. I love Rhiannon’s comment on how she dealt with those feelings we all can experience. Done
[19:50] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) flushes pink
[19:51] Gorm Runo: well, as I said. lets watch our interactions this week in light of this idea. Lets see how unselfish our service is, and if the rewards that flow from the dynamic are “worth it”
[19:51] Gorm Runo: I suggest you will find it is so. You all are here, and have been, for some time, fully knowing what Gor is about. i suspect that your slave bellies will speak loudly.
[19:52] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) whimpers as her belly tightens at the thought of being made of use ….
[19:52] Gorm Runo: you are all dismissed, now…that is enough for one night