This is the first in a series of 5-6 classes that will be taught by Master Gorm Runo.  The topics will cover slave protocols and what Masters expect of slaves.  They are held in the Village of Tosar on Monday’s at 7pm in Second Life.  All are welcome to come and participate.

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Well, it is right on the hour so, we should begin.

Actually, theses classes were requested by slave girls who were uncertain of protocols, and rules, and expectations.   They thought such were too inconsistent, and not clearly defined, within the House of Runo, and the villages and towns where the House operates and does business.  So, we will attempt to fix that and find some clarity.

In the book, Assassins of Gor, the training of three girls to be sold on the block in Ar as pleasure slaves, conducted in the Slave House of Cernus  begins with a discussion of the philosophical and historical story of slavery on Earth.  So, it makes sense to begin this series with a short review of what Gorean slavery means and why we practice it in Second Life Gor.


Goreans believe that we are not totally creatures of our immediate environment.  They know that we are the result of millions of years of successful evolution.  This word, successful, is what is important.  When we begin, we were not up very high on the food chain and we developed a Male/female dynamic that enabled us to become the dominant species on the planet.  And now many people think that we can ignore this and develop something totally different to define Male/female dynamics.  So, John Norman created an alternative world for us to consider.

He took both genders to the extreme. Way past even the evoluntionary truths, to absolute, total, legal slavery.  Men were now expected to no longer be wussies, and feed like pigs from a trough. and females were expected to be property, owned, animals, if you will.

When we began to gather together on the internet to practice this, role play it, recreate it, have fun with it, whatever our reasons for coming we gathered consensually. changing that major paradigm of Gor. And Second Life Gorean slavery was born.


A paradox, to add to many of the paradoxes of Gor.  Consensual slavery.   An oxymoron.
But, to our surprise, it actually worked and it made sense.  It opened up a doorway to what might be one of the most natural and highest evolved relationship between Males and females.  But, it would only be that, if it were done right.

Here inside Second Life Gor, there is , and has to be, what is called a “consensual gateway”  That means that a slave girl has two free choices, this is the consensuality part.
She choses to be a slave girl and she can chose to stop being one and go away forever.

So, in the classes that follow, we will talk about the things that are expected, no demanded, of any girl who passes through that gateway. And if she does not maintain those standards, she will face punishment.  That is the slavery part.

A good friend of mine, a slave girl named ladina, taught these classes using the concept, “its not about you.”  And she used examples and stories to show how hard it was for slaves to adjust to the idea that it is not about you.  This is a concept called, “vector”

not about you

But, of course, girls will ask, “whats in it for me?” Because casting off that beast of self interest and self preservation is no easy thing.  It was easy in the books, and easy in role play sometimes.  But, it is not easy to always think, “its not about me.”

So, one time, I will speak about what is in it for you.  Or as rhiannon called it earlier, “the warm and fuzzy feelings” that supposedly all females need to feel.

The dynamic , when it works right, works like this. The slave is here to serve, she submits, she vectors outward for others, and by doing so , she becomes the most valuable and prized of females.  She is protected, loved, guarded, and encouraged to blossom by Men who certainly are smart enough to appreciate what it means to have a female at their feet.  And more important, the submission can only come from true dominance. Gorean men , we are told breathed it in with the very air.



But, Masters in Second Life have to prove it every day , they are bound by codes and rules, and standards, that are way, way higher than the boys of Earth just like you girls are held to higher standards then the dumb cunts of Earth.  So, you get what the books say girls need. Men. who act like Men, and know how to treat you to keep fires burning inside you.

This is what’s in it for you, if you chose to pass through that gateway. And if you learn to do it right, and find Men that understand it , too.

Class Discussion

[19:24] Gorm Runo: Ok,,,lets take a break, and see if anyone has a comment up to now, or a question. we will use the campus system, to keep order, ,,type @
[19:25] Gorm Runo: and say done.
[19:25] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): @
[19:25] Gorm Runo: ok, tabi, go ahead.
[19:26] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): So what does a girl do, Master, if the Master she is with no longer feeds her fires? How can a girl continue to serve when she receives nothing in return? Is it expected that she still continue to serve and has no right to expect anything in return? And if soe, then how does a girl keep those fires lit… I mean, if there is no Master that is lighting them for her. If the Master doesn’t hold up his end of the bargain?
[19:26] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): For example the girl who is struggling and is trying to serve yet feels almost like it’s useless because no one is going to notice or appreciate it anyway. The girl who is losing those fires to serve and be a slave… what can she do?
[19:26] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): done, Master
[19:27] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): and sorry… it was a bunch of questions, but they are kind of related.
[19:28] Thaïs (LauraTarnsman): @
[19:29] Gorm Runo: I think tabi that they can be lumped into a single point. I mentioned that things have to be done right for this dynamic to work right. You can’t be half way or just dipping a foot into it. So, your examples show it not working, the dynamic not firing as it should. I think it is establishing the protocols and such that we are doing is a first step.
[19:29] rhiannon (rhiannon0327): @
[19:30] Gorm Runo: Because sadly, but true, the girl has the burden here, because of vector. The first question is going to be asked, “is she serving as she should.” Because if the answer is no, rarely do we move on to discuss the shortcomings of the Master.

[19:30] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy) mutters softly under her breath
[19:30] Gorm Runo: I know that does not sound fair. but that is one of the unfair dynamics and realities of Gor
[19:32] Gorm Runo: but, if the girl is a shining star on the shores of Thassa, it is really now on the asshole who can’t handle her, and maybe the Men of Gor should take some action. I am not saying that we do not need to be raising the Male standard , too.
[19:32] Marcus Coffeius (MarkyMarcus): @

[19:32] Gorm Runo: thais
[19:32] Gorm Runo: you were next
[19:32] Thaïs (LauraTarnsman): Master, in the books, I know that Masters began to prize their slaves greatly, but they also took strong and even severe measures to make sure that they never forgot their place. What kind of indicators might you see in SL Gorean slaves that they have perhaps forgotten their place? What are the behaviours that we should be watching for in ourselves? #done
[19:33] Gorm Runo: Well, thais, I hope we get more into detail on just what those indicators are in the coming classes, but lets take the first one from tonight. “Ask the vector question.”
[19:34] Gorm Runo: I would guess fifty percent of misunderstanding and unhappiness of slaves comes from the wrong answer to that question. Is it about me, or the one I am here to serve.”
[19:35] Gorm Runo: if nothing else , it clears the air, and gets the focus on more important issues.

[19:35] Gorm Runo: rhiannon, go ahead
[19:35] rhiannon (rhiannon0327): Thank you, Master. Vector, … this one understands where tabi is coming from, a discussion you and i had today really put it in perspective for me though. It was something i spoke of myself when attempting to speak of what i felt it mean to be kajira … to let go of intrinsic parts of yourself in order to learn anothers way of doing things and accept them .. to learn to be happy in pleasing him … a common thing that we slaves yearn to grasp fully …. And, yes rambling as i tend to do here but also .. you mentioned that a slave girl receives love. That she is protected, loved, guarded and so on … this is the first time that i have heard that a Master must love the slave or that is what she will receive .. i know it is something that the slave girls feel and wish for of course .. most of them i think .. however .. she tends to think that to truly surrender to a man that a girl must love him .. however, for that man to master her, he doesn’t have to love her, that is something that has been drummed
[19:35] rhiannon (rhiannon0327): into her silly head for years … and wonders your thoughts on the whole love thing….
[19:37] Gorm Runo: I think I had a good perspective on the love thing in Gor from the start.
[19:37] Gorm Runo: We understand it to be a perk for a slave girl. A nice one, and a very common one.
[19:37] Gorm Runo: I put it this way. There is a female serving me with grace and beauty, loyalty,
[19:39] Gorm Runo: she is the perfect female. How could I not grow to love her? Is love simply some kind of chemical thing over which we have no control? Or do we love our slave girls because they represent the epitome of female sensuality and that is hard not to love.
[19:39] Gorm Runo: but, there is purity to it
[19:40] Gorm Runo: We don’t have to “love” her, to get pussy, or not be nagged, or have to say it just to keep her happy. If we feel it, it is totally pure and real.
[19:40] Dιdo (SeasidePurcell) eats up Master Gorm’s words like juicy larma fruit!

[19:40] Gorm Runo: Marcus, you had a comment.
[19:40] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) nips bottom lip tapping the tip of the ink stained quill to her chin … “yes, Master, thank you.”
[19:40] Marcus Coffeius (MarkyMarcus): Regarding TABI’s questioning, communication is a fundamental of any good relationship. The unfulfilled slave should bring this point up to her Master with the respect and deference due him, and wonder out loud how she could be more pleasing and hope to better engage his attention and passion for dominance. I cannot speak for other men here but this is how I’d hope my property would respond to being unfulfilled.

Timing and presentation


[19:43] Gorm Runo: ah,,,that is a good time to move into my closing remarks tonight.
[19:43] Gorm Runo: I expect tabi and rhiannon to fall asleep, as they have heard it a million times.
[19:44] Gorm Runo: But, Goreans made it clear they did not want robots, or Stepford Wives, or Cookie Cutter girls, or doormats.
[19:44] Gorm Runo: they selected on earth, like we do in SL Gor, for intelligent spirited females with talents and opinions.
[19:45] Gorm Runo: however, they insisted on two things always in the behavior of their slaves
[19:45] Gorm Runo: timing
[19:45] Gorm Runo: and presentation.
[19:45] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) hears these words in her sleep …
[19:46] Gorm Runo: slaves were actually free, and certainly are here in SL, to think and believe anything they wish, and should get a chance to express it.
[19:46] Gorm Runo: But, at the right time ,,,and in the right way.
[19:46] Gorm Runo: that is a basic rule that every girl should understand.
[19:46] Gorm Runo: smiles
[19:48] Gorm Runo: my example , always is a girl has a deep soul searing question about philosophy, and the Master wants her in the furs , legs spread. Perhaps, this is not the right time? Maybe an hour later when he pulls her contented into his arms, and says, “whats on your mind, little slave girl? might be better timing.
[19:49] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): @
[19:49] Gorm Runo: and presentation might even mean learning how to call me an asshole without actually saying,,,”you know, Master, you are an asshole.”
[19:49] Gorm Runo: even if it is the truth
[19:49] Gorm Runo: laughs

[19:49] Gorm Runo: go ahead, tabi
[19:50] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) presses lips together eyes sparkling at the asshole comment ….
[19:50] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): Perhaps we can cover this in another class, but I have never understood why a slave is expected to exert all this self control while the Master can’t seem to control himself or is even expected to. I always thought the Master was supposed to Master himself before he could Master the girl, yet it seems the majority of the pressure is put on the girl to control herself so the Master can control himself or something like that.
[19:50] TABI (Xtabi Galaxy): done, Master
[19:53] Marcus Coffeius (MarkyMarcus): Excuse me everyone. Great class Gorm
[19:53] Gorm Runo: sort of asking why should a slave placate a furious Master, after all isn’t he Master enough to control the raging animal beast inside him or something.
[19:53] Gorm Runo: I wish you well, Marcus
[19:55] Gorm Runo: well, tabi, I think that falls back on the idea that it isn’t going to work if it isn’t done right. and I don’t think Masters are excused for not controlling themselves. We are, as I said, bound by codes and standards of behavior that are much higher than you can imagine. But, those are not what the classes are about either. We need to talk about what your rules and codes and standards are. I talk more about ours on Thursdays
[19:56] Gorm Runo: and there is an old Gorean saying
[19:56] Gorm Runo: that I think is true

women act like women

[19:57] Gorm Runo: The more a female acts like a female , the more a Man acts like a Man, which causes the female to be more female, which causes,,,etc. etc.
[19:57] Gorm Runo: this is the dynamic we seek
[19:58] Gorm Runo: and to argue what comes first to get it started isn’t the right approach. We each, Masters, and slaves must go first, and get it started. Us by being Men,,,you girls by being female.
[19:59] Gorm Runo: As we talk of your rules, though, tabi, we will show how they match ours, too.
[19:59] Gorm Runo: Ok, it is an hour
[19:59] Gorm Runo: we can stop here for tonight
[19:59] Gorm Runo: thank you all for the comments and attention
[19:59] Dιdo (SeasidePurcell) wishes the class would continue.
[19:59] GeneChico: Great Class Gorm, Thank you!
[19:59] Gorm Runo: remember, timing, presentation, vector. three important ideas.
[19:59] Thaïs (LauraTarnsman): Thank you, Master.
[20:00] GoodOleCharlie: Very interesting view on Things, Rumo – my compliments
[20:00] Gorm Runo: ahh, thank you, Administrator, glad you could stop by
[20:00] Dιdo (SeasidePurcell): Master Gorm, thank you for such an informative class!
[20:00] Ava Wolf (RuthAnneMcgee): Thank you for offering such a great class, Master.
[20:00] GeneChico nods, be well Gorm
[20:00] GoodOleCharlie: Saf Paths, Form!
[20:00] rhiannon (rhiannon0327) offers humbly, “Thank you Master for allowing this one of yours to attend and for allowing her to offer her comments, ask her questions and for your answers …. ”
[20:01] Gorm Runo: I wish you well, Administrator
[20:01] GeneChico looks over all the beautiful girls